In a gripping discussion on the All In podcast, billionaire investor and former Democratic donor Antonio Gracias made a stunning allegation: under the Biden Administration, U.S. policies at the southern border may have inadvertently funneled between $13 and $15 billion annually into the hands of human traffickers. Citing internal findings from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), Gracias shared his belief that government decisions have created a financial pipeline that benefits criminal networks responsible for smuggling people into the country.
Gracias, who is closely associated with tech mogul Elon Musk, voiced his concerns in detail during the interview. He argued that the administration’s approach to border control had the unintended effect of turning the U.S. into a magnet for illegal immigration, driven not by environmental or humanitarian crises, but by economic opportunity and exploitative systems. “We gave $13 to $15 billion a year to the human traffickers,” he said. “That’s what the system did.” According to him, the pull of potential income and lenient enforcement mechanisms created a deadly journey for thousands seeking entry into the U.S.
He went on to describe his personal investigation into the situation, calling the policies not only misguided but morally unacceptable. “We’re supposed to protect people—not incentivize trafficking,” he remarked. Gracias questioned how migrants from regions like Central America or Africa could afford the exorbitant fees charged by traffickers—reportedly as high as $20,000 per person. He suggested that those who manage to cross often fall into systems of modern-day indentured servitude to pay off their debts, undermining the foundational American value of freedom.
The conversation also broached the potential political motivations behind these policies. One of the podcast hosts asked whether there might be an underlying agenda to grow the Democratic voter base through increased immigration. Gracias responded affirmatively, saying, “Yeah, I think this was a move to import voters.” He emphasized that his conclusions were based not on speculation but on direct review of official documents and agency data, insisting that the policies in question were not accidents—they were deliberately crafted.
Wrapping up the interview, Gracias expressed hope that Americans from both major political parties could see the harmful consequences of the current border strategy. He urged unity and moral clarity in addressing what he called an “evil” set of policies. “This isn’t right,” he stated emphatically. “These policies are wrong. They gave people incentives to be trafficked. Man, we gotta take care of people.” His emotional appeal reflected both a humanitarian concern and a call for national accountability.
